Aaron Musick: Trade market: who would you add?

The fact that Ryan has not been moved already, shows that the asking price is probably too high. From what I see reported as possible package deals, I must say it borders on insanity.
Everyone seems interested in having this guy, but with all the teams interested, and Ryan himself wanting to be traded, there is still no deal?

Yandle is the most interesting trade scenario for me. Like you said Doan leaves, and whitney already gone, they will need to upgrade their forwards quickly. And will have to take on heavy cap hit forwards to do so.

Ryan will take a lot to pry out of the Ducks. Teams will do it but to me it would be more of a lateral move if you have to give up to do so, not even GM ships out their best forward and takes second tier players like Columbus

Yandle is the most interesting trade scenario for me. Like you said Doan leaves, and whitney already gone, they will need to upgrade their forwards quickly. And will have to take on heavy cap hit forwards to do so.

Ryan will take a lot to pry out of the Ducks. Teams will do it but to me it would be more of a lateral move if you have to give up to do so, not even GM ships out their best forward and takes second tier players like Columbus
- DDM-Coga

Stastny could be a nice piece in a a deal for either Ryan or Yandle. But Thats if the Av's are ready to let Duchene and O'Reilly be the top 2 centers. I think Stastny is under rated by most fans.

Stastny could be a nice piece in a a deal for either Ryan or Yandle. But Thats if the Av's are ready to let Duchene and O'Reilly be the top 2 centers. I think Stastny is under rated by most fans.
- poisondhearts37

I am not ready to roll the dice on Duchene and O'Reilly this season as our top 2 centers. They will be our future but they are still young, Stastny solidifies the forward core and takes the pressure of them. with 2 years left on his contract, you could easily move him at a deadline or at the draft next year if Dutch and Radar show that they are ready to take the reigns this season.

Yandle and Ryan could also be available at the deadline or the draft next season too, my guess is they arent shipped out before the season starts

I am not ready to roll the dice on Duchene and O'Reilly this season as our top 2 centers. They will be our future but they are still young, Stastny solidifies the forward core and takes the pressure of them. with 2 years left on his contract, you could easily move him at a deadline or at the draft next year if Dutch and Radar show that they are ready to take the reigns this season.

Yandle and Ryan could also be available at the deadline or the draft next season too, my guess is they arent shipped out before the season starts
- DDM-Coga

I would love to trade for O'Reilly. But if I were the Avs GM, he would be worth more to me keeping him and waiting for him to develop, than anything I could get in a trade for him.. I think it is likely he will be with CO for a long time.

Aaron Musick: Trade market: who would you add?
- martok2309

Center. Depth. Wins. Cups.

Why do you think Statsny is still an Av? O'reilly's emergence and Duchenes already established ability only makes them want to keep Statsny more. The longer you can keep the 3 of them together, the better.

You've begun surrounding them with better wingers. You guys need an upgrade on D, but you have a lot of youngsters who are waiting to prove just how good they are. Hopefully one of them emerges and displays some sort of dominance, or at least the ability to jump right into top-4 minutes sooner rather than later.

Washington now has 3 pretty good centres

Backstrom
Ribeiro
Johansson

i thought it was crazy WSH got Ribeiro for only a 2nd Rounder pick and then assumed it was to trade one of their Centres... or to compensate for Backstrom still being injured, which i really am not sure about

anyways, point being

WSH has a "2nd line Centre" that the Ducks reportedly want in return

If Yandle is somehow available, teams should jump on him right now.

If it costs more to get Bobby Ryan than Keith Yandle... go for Yandle.

would love the Avs to get Ryan the asking price is just to high . . . unless they want prospects, which they dont!

Yandle would be a perfect fit with Johnson, but who do we give up Hishon, Kobasew, McLoud, O'Byrne, Hedja, Wilson or Hunwick? Any combination of those players wont do it.

If the Avs are to get a upgrade i think its goin to be Kostitsyen or Coloiacivo or what ever is left on the open market!

Stastny + Gaunce/Barrie/Elliott (only one of them)

for

Hanzal + Yandle

yes please.

Washington now has 3 pretty good centres

Backstrom
Ribeiro
Johansson

i thought it was crazy WSH got Ribeiro for only a 2nd Rounder pick and then assumed it was to trade one of their Centres... or to compensate for Backstrom still being injured, which i really am not sure about

anyways, point being

WSH has a "2nd line Centre" that the Ducks reportedly want in return
- Rimland

Dont forget Brooks Laich

If Yandle is somehow available, teams should jump on him right now.

If it costs more to get Bobby Ryan than Keith Yandle... go for Yandle.
- Scabeh

Agreed completely. Yandle is just as valuable as Ryan IMO.

Agreed completely. Yandle is just as valuable as Ryan IMO.
- Nucker101

IMHO Yandle carries more value to the Yotes than Ryan to the Ducks.

Yandle carries a hefty price tag the Yotes need to hit the floor, and is really the only proven star in the Desert.

I would trade O'Reilly for Ryan, it would hurt but you can't pass up that kind of talent. Especially knowing how much chemistry Stastny already has with him. I would want the deal worked around O'Reilly + for Ryan & Holland though.

You have to consider the fact that O'Reilly's value maybe at a high point right now especially if Duchene plays well next year and O'Reilly is used in a more defensive role.

If you look at Phoenix when it comes to Yandle.. If they trade him they need equal or greater salary coming back so if it was with us it would need to be Stastny. They are so far under the salary floor, and Yandle is pretty much their biggest contract as of right now.

Stastny + Gaunce/Barrie/Elliott (only one of them)

for

Hanzal + Yandle

yes please.
- AarifDeen

honestly I don't think that offer gets you one of them. Hanzel is a very good hockey player. IMO the only center on Col better then him is Duchense. Hanzal is better then O'Reilly. And I know Ryan and his family personally(great people) I would gaurentee one of Duchense or Lanndeskog would have to go the other way along with another very good player.

I would trade O'Reilly for Ryan, it would hurt but you can't pass up that kind of talent. Especially knowing how much chemistry Stastny already has with him. I would want the deal worked around O'Reilly + for Ryan & Holland though.

You have to consider the fact that O'Reilly's value maybe at a high point right now especially if Duchene plays well next year and O'Reilly is used in a more defensive role.

If you look at Phoenix when it comes to Yandle.. If they trade him they need equal or greater salary coming back so if it was with us it would need to be Stastny. They are so far under the salary floor, and Yandle is pretty much their biggest contract as of right now.
- Steve-B

If anything Col throws in a prospect not anh.

Would you guys do Edler for O'Reilly. He would be far and away your best defense an. Or maybe Edler and a 1st for Dushense

honestly I don't think that offer gets you one of them. Hanzel is a very good hockey player. IMO the only center on Col better then him is Duchense. Hanzal is better then O'Reilly. And I know Ryan and his family personally(great people) I would gaurentee one of Duchense or Lanndeskog would have to go the other way along with another very good player.
- Bieksa#3

You know what.. I realize that stats are not everything but :

2007-2008 Coyotes 72 8 27 35 -7 28 1 1 3 111 7.2
2007-2008 Czech Republic-WC-A 6 0 3 3 8
2008-2009 Coyotes 74 11 20 31 -4 40 0 2 2 97 11.3
2009-2010 Coyotes 81 11 22 33 0 104 2 0 0 147 7.5
2010-2011 Coyotes 61 16 10 26 4 54 7 0 5 149 10.7
2011-2012 Coyotes 64 8 26 34 12 63 3 0 2 145 5.5
NHL Totals 352 54 105 159 5 289 13 3 12 649 8.3

Those are third line center numbers and the offensive margin between Stastny, Duchene, O'Reilly and Hanzal is just to great to call him "Better than any one of our centers except Duchene".

Hanzal brings a solid shutdown game but he wasn't Phoenix's third line center this year and his numbers have been pretty consistent. People keep saying he is just like O'Reilly but has not broken out offensively yet. Except that hes 25 years old and has 5 seasons at the NHL level.

Just because a guy is big does not make him automatically better, and you can only push the "Hes so good defensively" thing so far without some offensive production to go with it. Especially with him getting top 6 minutes in Phoenix and having quality wingers last season.

Hanzal is a perfect third line center on almost any other team besides the Coyotes.

You know what.. I realize that stats are not everything but :

2007-2008 Coyotes 72 8 27 35 -7 28 1 1 3 111 7.2
2007-2008 Czech Republic-WC-A 6 0 3 3 8
2008-2009 Coyotes 74 11 20 31 -4 40 0 2 2 97 11.3
2009-2010 Coyotes 81 11 22 33 0 104 2 0 0 147 7.5
2010-2011 Coyotes 61 16 10 26 4 54 7 0 5 149 10.7
2011-2012 Coyotes 64 8 26 34 12 63 3 0 2 145 5.5
NHL Totals 352 54 105 159 5 289 13 3 12 649 8.3

Those are third line center numbers and the offensive margin between Stastny, Duchene, O'Reilly and Hanzal is just to great to call him "Better than any one of our centers except Duchene".

Hanzal brings a solid shutdown game but he wasn't Phoenix's third line center this year and his numbers have been pretty consistent. People keep saying he is just like O'Reilly but has not broken out offensively yet. Except that hes 25 years old and has 5 seasons at the NHL level.

Just because a guy is big does not make him automatically better, and you can only push the "Hes so good defensively" thing so far without some offensive production to go with it. Especially with him getting top 6 minutes in Phoenix and having quality wingers last season.
- Steve-B

He's a power forward type player. He's by no means topped out offensively at 25. However, if traded to the Avs, he's not better then Oreilly or Duchene.

He's a power forward type player. He's by no means topped out offensively at 25. However, if traded to the Avs, he's not better then Oreilly or Duchene.
- mochoson

And I wouldn't assume that he has topped out offensively but his offensive numbers have been pretty consistent even with the amount of minutes he has gotten. And the fact that he would be third on the depth chart on a lot of teams is all I am saying. Not trying to knock his game but he gets overvalued quite a bit sometimes considering the lack of offensive production he has shown so far.

If anything Col throws in a prospect not anh.
- Bieksa#3

Are you blind? See the O'Reilly+ part?

You know what.. I realize that stats are not everything but :

2007-2008 Coyotes 72 8 27 35 -7 28 1 1 3 111 7.2
2007-2008 Czech Republic-WC-A 6 0 3 3 8
2008-2009 Coyotes 74 11 20 31 -4 40 0 2 2 97 11.3
2009-2010 Coyotes 81 11 22 33 0 104 2 0 0 147 7.5
2010-2011 Coyotes 61 16 10 26 4 54 7 0 5 149 10.7
2011-2012 Coyotes 64 8 26 34 12 63 3 0 2 145 5.5
NHL Totals 352 54 105 159 5 289 13 3 12 649 8.3

Those are third line center numbers and the offensive margin between Stastny, Duchene, O'Reilly and Hanzal is just to great to call him "Better than any one of our centers except Duchene".

Hanzal brings a solid shutdown game but he wasn't Phoenix's third line center this year and his numbers have been pretty consistent. People keep saying he is just like O'Reilly but has not broken out offensively yet. Except that hes 25 years old and has 5 seasons at the NHL level.

Just because a guy is big does not make him automatically better, and you can only push the "Hes so good defensively" thing so far without some offensive production to go with it. Especially with him getting top 6 minutes in Phoenix and having quality wingers last season.

Hanzal is a perfect third line center on almost any other team besides the Coyotes.
- Steve-B

I think you have to look at what style the teams play. Its not comparable.

And I wouldn't assume that he has topped out offensively but his offensive numbers have been pretty consistent even with the amount of minutes he has gotten. And the fact that he would be third on the depth chart on a lot of teams is all I am saying. Not trying to knock his game but he gets overvalued quite a bit sometimes considering the lack of offensive production he has shown so far.



Are you blind? See the O'Reilly+ part?
- Steve-B

relax I did miss that. So you are thinkingO'Reilly and say a 1st for Ryan and Holland?

relax I did miss that. So you are thinkingO'Reilly and say a 1st for Ryan and Holland?
- Bieksa#3

No, and I don't think that would be enough. My argument for needing Holland in the deal is that Colorado would need a young center that is closer to being ready for the NHL. So I would include a center prospect in the deal like Hishon or Sgarbossa as well.

Something like :

O'Reilly + (Anaheim's pick of) Hishon or Sgarbossa + 1st

for

Ryan & Holland

With Koivu Anaheim could give Sgarbossa/Hishon another year or two in the AHL where trading O'Reilly would force us to bring in a rookie center. Holland has had a year in the AHL where Sgarbossa & Hishon have higher offensive upside but are a year behind him in development and hitting the pro ranks next season.

No, and I don't think that would be enough. My argument for needing Holland in the deal is that Colorado would need a young center that is closer to being ready for the NHL. So I would include a center prospect in the deal like Hishon or Sgarbossa as well.

Something like :

O'Reilly + (Anaheim's pick of) Hishon or Sgarbossa + 1st

for

Ryan & Holland

With Koivu Anaheim could give Sgarbossa/Hishon another year or two in the AHL where trading O'Reilly would force us to bring in a rookie center. Holland has had a year in the AHL where Sgarbossa & Hishon have higher offensive upside but are a year behind him in development and hitting the pro ranks next season.
- Steve-B

that's decent. Would they move Holland.